220 11787 article Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Krauss Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals Subject: Re: N4078: Rvalue reference overloads for value() method returns object by value Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 14:23:56 +0800 Lines: 67 Approved: news@gmane.org Message-ID: References: <4DA018C3-2327-4F55-B7F8-7988EC7B789A@gmail.com> <1a858a77-310b-4591-aaf5-960c40d9f5fc@isocpp.org> <66AF41C1-CB37-4311-98EA-D47DBC6068DC@gmail.com> <8888e3af-c11a-4e44-970d-01c0ef795f97@isocpp.org> Reply-To: std-proposals@isocpp.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_6B566DBD-7042-4F37-990B-D146F9A85EB2" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1404973451 28603 80.91.229.3 (10 Jul 2014 06:24:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 06:24:11 +0000 (UTC) To: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-X-From: std-proposals+bncBCW25A7E3QCRBAHD7COQKGQEATG3ITY@isocpp.org Thu Jul 10 08:24:03 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mail-yk0-f200.google.com ([209.85.160.200]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1X57ly-0004Ly-8O for gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 08:24:02 +0200 Original-Received: by mail-yk0-f200.google.com with SMTP id 20sf19730956yks.7 for ; Wed, 09 Jul 2014 23:24:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date :references:to:in-reply-to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=3CVZtR+sII/FlyKjCiKkX62CruH1KlmhpQ5w7PmGSu0=; b=H8wlSCPI4VKi+f2gVlWkLtfTY0QdzUO5cLiXFUhuRzXAlAOeaAijo9mrjrqa+hqmtk G9ERc6BVCpucrzf62UCK78atlY1nJm8ZQDFcxc+xAzUfO23cyqhBvIodU8vtN9lAUO3x 2Rkep+uverIEBLLWJNCPTY373ahxxJAAB9ipNdW9Dfy+l61Lv4bO+a5V6ldUJ4Di1/ZX sMN5qCkh90T3YeO58ctvpAO2Tydgf/VJYNAJvSQpvg9HndBKf6IlgRtwLrc8AGdprpXy L2vCMO7l9jUdPkLhwN1ELuEe8ci0+npzyvdi0s9/DMU9SwGDczkGlgGM8J/ZrzZkbuak jc4w== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkdkGQEQW5hw+nizV5jIQheaWAacJQEHQePhyTZSLZxbtE3kGzgAfl+PFIA2ZMMqB3JZGO6 X-Received: by 10.236.171.234 with SMTP id r70mr19255715yhl.45.1404973441335; Wed, 09 Jul 2014 23:24:01 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-Received: by 10.50.129.99 with SMTP id nv3ls4845igb.24.gmail; Wed, 09 Jul 2014 23:24:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.42.67.203 with SMTP id u11mr53356164ici.20.1404973440594; Wed, 09 Jul 2014 23:24:00 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from mail-ig0-x234.google.com (mail-ig0-x234.google.com [2607:f8b0:4001:c05::234]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n1si11523988igy.8.2014.07.09.23.24.00 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 09 Jul 2014 23:24:00 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of potswa@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c05::234 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4001:c05::234; Original-Received: by mail-ig0-f180.google.com with SMTP id l13so2343441iga.13 for ; Wed, 09 Jul 2014 23:24:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.43.61.134 with SMTP id ww6mr418084icb.88.1404973440499; Wed, 09 Jul 2014 23:24:00 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [172.20.10.2] ([121.54.54.63]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id aw9sm22399705igc.9.2014.07.09.23.23.58 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 09 Jul 2014 23:24:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8888e3af-c11a-4e44-970d-01c0ef795f97@isocpp.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-Original-Sender: potswa@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of potswa@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c05::234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=potswa@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:11787 Archived-At: --Apple-Mail=_6B566DBD-7042-4F37-990B-D146F9A85EB2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 2014-07-10, at 2:18 PM, tomaszkam@gmail.com wrote: > I dont see like introduing the rvalue reference overload that makes the c= ode works more coherent with current status qou, that is no reference overl= aod for getters provide more suprises that introducing temporaries in place= s that they were not present before in existing codebases. Please also reme= ber about forward.=20 You want to introduce a function named value() that returns something other= than a value. Is that coherent? --=20 ---=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/group/std-proposa= ls/. --Apple-Mail=_6B566DBD-7042-4F37-990B-D146F9A85EB2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
On 2014&= ndash;07–10, at 2:18 PM, tomas= zkam@gmail.com wrote:

I dont see l= ike introduing the rvalue reference overload that makes the code works more= coherent with current status qou, that is no reference overlaod for getter= s provide more suprises that introducing temporaries in places that they we= re not present before in existing codebases. Please also remeber about forw= ard. 

You want to introduc= e a function named value() that returns something other than a value. Is th= at coherent?

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