220 11515 <6b75ccad-1042-4a0e-9c2a-7da2b58624c9@isocpp.org> article Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Olaf van der Spek Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals Subject: Re: Controversy and debate: Uninitialized variables by default is a bug Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 14:44:01 -0700 (PDT) Lines: 52 Approved: news@gmane.org Message-ID: <6b75ccad-1042-4a0e-9c2a-7da2b58624c9@isocpp.org> References: <60caa4ef-b32d-40fe-97b6-8918fbb2bd51@isocpp.org> Reply-To: std-proposals@isocpp.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_45_588973.1403127841237" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1403127853 27013 80.91.229.3 (18 Jun 2014 21:44:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 21:44:13 +0000 (UTC) To: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-X-From: std-proposals+bncBC5NB45SSABBBIUQRCOQKGQE66IBM3A@isocpp.org Wed Jun 18 23:44:04 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mail-ig0-f198.google.com ([209.85.213.198]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WxNeF-0006Nv-Li for gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2014 23:44:03 +0200 Original-Received: by mail-ig0-f198.google.com with SMTP id h3sf5292728igd.9 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2014 14:44:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=XB/RYWAXwkMVkHISanxWny5jmt9YN9bZdw6QVKoJhoA=; b=mc9oSk5Nge2Z0eD6gpvPe6IR51zotqe+ITXd4RYzUxUqDbtyF8dXf+2+9s4xDDbIvY Q6bVnGbCDusa86cCidBk+LkKKw+4R4zw1cmdUpnAtdYrJF6868Lom3G5KX7/Lnm/yG53 9pqK1siZJud8j8v3RiS04yhKWlrQ7ljvO/OSJRSVoLJLHOe+W27+Rc4OGvYTYKmkWUN+ 0U7o5fofXxiJIUKWN+R/X6+7YLCkBMk33XQ5Xj3O+Y61VPiHqjzc0VaVLs3UHpTH17I+ qQhtSRXny2pL+4IZQf0J8evQOZoCZsnFoPzm9Vgk9aoNWCK/Rye6zT2OZOq47gx1i994 UPqw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references :subject:mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence :mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=XB/RYWAXwkMVkHISanxWny5jmt9YN9bZdw6QVKoJhoA=; b=LZpjCRcvdM89LQRbs3aC8SZsAEg97snW9laiF6+3nxo1+5+Of7C9CV38hCibxlGbiN kJLCDSrNNYxOPjOM/HHK+MMKri55ewpUoqmiojyswMKY4OFjeff4pxTNBthp35tm2esm m2bNLdsSV50xDbVcZtKiAsQ7DdXJngEiZCs4q2yS/nGCLxFV6PYkGlLawnQ1EL563PIs mler9W13g3w/MxvBudXLqd+E/7ekfMtYjnlVNnI7OKLNwpf4g6qWln9bip7eRkwK7f9u +56ANpT3VyER8YlgVcoeVY/SSS9jLTtdn5BuGpZZ1JEnRpwCn8DODndurwrWaj5yo9jV qTBQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn3TJYxIYVKSm4yBC9j4kzWovkzY7h4RP/JHOpOquAqRnrTrkWG37H6G+EZoiuB87klhUsj X-Received: by 10.182.73.200 with SMTP id n8mr454882obv.33.1403127842785; Wed, 18 Jun 2014 14:44:02 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-Received: by 10.140.50.80 with SMTP id r74ls289176qga.71.gmail; Wed, 18 Jun 2014 14:44:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.102.77 with SMTP id v71mr1125qge.42.1403127842102; Wed, 18 Jun 2014 14:44:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <60caa4ef-b32d-40fe-97b6-8918fbb2bd51@isocpp.org> X-Original-Sender: olafvdspek@gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:11515 Archived-At: ------=_Part_45_588973.1403127841237 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 5:49:57 PM UTC+2, Matthew Fioravante wrote: > > The fact that `int x;` creates an uninitialized integer instead of a > default initialized one is completely wrong. I consider it a major defect > in the language, a bug in the standard. > Have you requested your compiler vendor for a warning for uninitialized variables? Shouldn't be too hard, right? -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/group/std-proposals/. ------=_Part_45_588973.1403127841237 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 5:49:57 PM UTC+2, Matthew Fiorav= ante wrote:
Th= e fact that `int x;` creates an uninitialized integer instead of a default = initialized one is completely wrong. I consider it a major defect in the la= nguage, a bug in the standard.

Ha= ve you requested your compiler vendor for a warning for uninitialized varia= bles? Shouldn't be too hard, right?

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