220 11506 <9a73942d-7043-41ed-9413-890214a8efb6@isocpp.org> article Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: walter1234 Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals Subject: Re: Re: Controversy and debate: Uninitialized variables by default is a bug Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 23:26:55 -0700 (PDT) Lines: 33 Approved: news@gmane.org Message-ID: <9a73942d-7043-41ed-9413-890214a8efb6@isocpp.org> References: <60caa4ef-b32d-40fe-97b6-8918fbb2bd51@isocpp.org> <03f935ac-2f51-46bb-b84b-d37c864e3b04@isocpp.org> <1798793.WG2J7LSt36@tjmaciei-mobl4> Reply-To: std-proposals@isocpp.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2098_30291709.1403072815385" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1403072824 14679 80.91.229.3 (18 Jun 2014 06:27:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 06:27:04 +0000 (UTC) To: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-X-From: std-proposals+bncBDO7FOW36ILRBMHCQSOQKGQENMEFCKY@isocpp.org Wed Jun 18 08:26:58 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mail-ie0-f200.google.com ([209.85.223.200]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Wx9Kj-0004mH-DN for gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2014 08:26:57 +0200 Original-Received: by mail-ie0-f200.google.com with SMTP id tr6sf3103498ieb.11 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 23:26:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=il2q869i/l48eD8s9Y9714k4L2dX/mXLS15NohXfPjU=; b=C56hpyYG4UdQNuscfCvW/OC1cvHsCev/ZdLaPhDYPbNRmzhA0ejyhtQTV/3bwx4SqI lDjNzqcYkojbhseR4WEky2rNOOT4jCuzu3Zc+cMvJdiGdv9F36pmKnPWCRVpyDbRv3YH 1k2aaqsEMzhklRRE316d1W+PmCnkIfzvuCIYJ53A2afe1Rl5Ky72T9x/90zIV38I7jvp BQoHWYl0h2kYJb+ZoOuQJuc1ORigiqXL5MfdM6WfeBigeZkKPzAfN3sfdsWPQB6+ooXW 8ULF1XHtUbIuqhpy3qXfvvKJAupB0jBAvuRFG17WN5p5dh3DGClbZSYomjj+KaIrEdWD BUaA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references :subject:mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence :mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=il2q869i/l48eD8s9Y9714k4L2dX/mXLS15NohXfPjU=; b=IrQgaIY2sqXD/K4gPpk4yH9sekP9ildBnh4ghJaA8wVihSUqOrwlYFTs11FK+ZfnVp 16JX3JlDyxQBvxYV1dhIVzUokk7EkNfSew9v7ja8cvJPDbxWN3JNYRh6ZWFeUgSMoT1x InDle5SpwMApcCccXisvu1s/7v8F6bpWnylYQgF3Ht+4+BRRacWFRV6J3Og/mGCU98w2 mgzfubSO8SPRRvnTU81tm7JHj/sJGFgN4QPmTtuU4SRl6Xr/9SbA0DW2dLdqvTWbD2Re AqWVMPFKXpxIKZYGY8sQ7rM4tMw0nHk05mpg7aBD9ay+9jqI5Vdepx8QNwkW9VPAy3AJ CyWg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmgLiTOA5oHQfL3iIaKw4VHXkfjydgkzyv9mxNdgP0F0xAhf4QVld8FBStxSZOfE6Ium9kV X-Received: by 10.182.68.16 with SMTP id r16mr9923obt.26.1403072816537; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 23:26:56 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-Received: by 10.140.18.230 with SMTP id 93ls3269392qgf.77.gmail; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 23:26:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.51.231 with SMTP id u94mr138qga.34.1403072815891; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 23:26:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1798793.WG2J7LSt36@tjmaciei-mobl4> X-Original-Sender: walter2bz@gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:11506 Archived-At: ------=_Part_2098_30291709.1403072815385 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Ok the nice behaviour of rust is requiring that you usually create variables by assignment of an initial expression. I agree, silently initialising to zero would actually be a step backwards. -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/group/std-proposals/. ------=_Part_2098_30291709.1403072815385 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
Ok the nice behaviour of rust is requiring that you usually create variables by assignment of an initial expression.
I agree, silently initialising to zero would actually be a step backwards.


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