220 10631 article Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: pecholt@gmail.com Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals Subject: Re: Unicode support in the Standard Library Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 02:03:38 -0700 (PDT) Lines: 82 Approved: news@gmane.org Message-ID: References: <4ef82544-cd98-4488-8230-88ddaea78562@isocpp.org> <002D029C-6783-4A62-8CC4-B32B7BE8B23D@gmail.com> <01f2cc36-e743-4782-891e-c074dc072c7f@isocpp.org> <1d79df40-3313-4241-a9b8-d9364d68d327@isocpp.org> Reply-To: std-proposals@isocpp.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_132_29922195.1400144618755" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1400144629 32602 80.91.229.3 (15 May 2014 09:03:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 09:03:49 +0000 (UTC) To: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-X-From: std-proposals+bncBD6KHDH5WIDBB24F2KNQKGQEXSJGMPQ@isocpp.org Thu May 15 11:03:42 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mail-vc0-f198.google.com ([209.85.220.198]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WkrZl-0003x3-1n for gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 May 2014 11:03:41 +0200 Original-Received: by mail-vc0-f198.google.com with SMTP id ij19sf10478873vcb.9 for ; Thu, 15 May 2014 02:03:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=vXb5DDW8FQ7IogRBDG0fhrn0QjiQyBD0DnIJ8I0Bn7g=; b=HmFhJu0ybviJxCUAJPIgudXFW7avdChS4MUKx4d0cpWrKeC9uzXeIJWKG8/QnYFSRP 0Pm5/lfESjyc1u1Nd3CxKMggqSxvHKQgDdxMxgR6DBWYIG5kfMubovEDa2Lp2y0O85SJ SuFB6Zax61z4jxJRBA2Tu2jzntXm7Lihf6CtwpshcwuDn4bwWV8JY5+w0E2z/eIJjt9j Wf07SQ4hdGTGi3tpGaVu9/wT0Xkt0z5gPK737KOV4W4V9MroJpbj5lpkakAY88YO1I2L TjGelwqvWHhI9m+EsXGDHoFjDRK++QhzQqwMZdWx04X1UqL/0o6fV02tXrkGa4XaefJZ dN6A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references :subject:mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence :mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=vXb5DDW8FQ7IogRBDG0fhrn0QjiQyBD0DnIJ8I0Bn7g=; b=gXGyLZjJ5kHrCHflJRFYZDWneXTpYITn3QosOyr2CXRUGGJ42rDrX+Qig6hIgxbYMV N6yMIJGKMkY2rV2pOgNT8/MwxVrz5V0iHA8oZDPyU0dMslleVeogXWQ6H232vveTMePv 0oILnBgqRobqdUHoIFSBAn24Lcqmnq2doqtvsKddl/ItOjBcmWAIO68iVcdSbs+GfRa/ hOBko5o5ggsbxwVs1SRpkbFkchveXQZLBAbJeGJIQxVe/rCLRg9XIKadsIq6wC94to9P QmTd1T2FO+rzEJaslO7X2cP9c/nF1rjXypg2X9bN9G11C7Fyh3Jc2u34WEjZ/LFHSqb4 k2SA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlzo7m7V5vt2hKY26YGbyMyY6QuvxHwngj5V1keqiP8g1YZmM4V9ws7Lv8qJU9eOT71kyEu X-Received: by 10.52.4.164 with SMTP id l4mr3760424vdl.3.1400144620194; Thu, 15 May 2014 02:03:40 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-Received: by 10.140.107.247 with SMTP id h110ls159449qgf.44.gmail; Thu, 15 May 2014 02:03:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.27.40 with SMTP id 37mr24212qgw.24.1400144619502; Thu, 15 May 2014 02:03:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: pecholt@gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:10631 Archived-At: ------=_Part_132_29922195.1400144618755 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I guess if neither basic_string nor char_traits can be modifier your previous example would like like this: std::transform(lbegin_from(input), lend_from(input),lback_inserter (result), to_upper); this makes the interfaces slightly more complicated. I would personally consider it too verbose already because internal encoding is most like the same in all parts of program/dll but it has to be repeated on every line. I am not sure if it would be feasible to provide default encoding value so one doesn't need to repeat it everywhere (e.g. on windows default value would be utf8 for std::string and utf16 for std::wstring. On linux std::wstring would default to utf32) -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/group/std-proposals/. ------=_Part_132_29922195.1400144618755 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I guess if neither basic_string nor char_traits can be mod= ifier your previous example would like like this:

std::transform(lbegin_from<utf8>(input), lend_from<utf8>(input)= , lback_in= serter(result= ), to_upper);

this makes the interfaces slightly= more complicated. I would personally consider it too verbose already becau= se internal encoding is most like the same in all parts of program/dll but = it has to be repeated on every line.

I am not sure if it would be f= easible to provide default encoding value so one doesn't need to repeat it = everywhere (e.g. on windows default value would be utf8 for std::string and= utf16 for std::wstring. On linux std::wstring would default to utf32)
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