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[2a01:4f8:d13:f81:21c:14ff:fe01:12a3]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id pr4si15438318bkb.314.2014.01.27.11.09.44 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2014 11:09:44 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of thiago@macieira.org designates 2a01:4f8:d13:f81:21c:14ff:fe01:12a3 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a01:4f8:d13:f81:21c:14ff:fe01:12a3; Original-Received: from tjmaciei-mobl2.localnet (unknown [IPv6:2a01:4f8:d13:f81:21c:14ff:fe01:12a3]) by gondolin.macieira.info (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2166A11B658 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2014 11:09:44 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: KMail/4.12 pre (Linux/3.9.10-100+i915fix.fc17.x86_64; KDE/4.11.60; x86_64; git-8054221; 2013-08-01) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: thiago@macieira.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of thiago@macieira.org designates 2a01:4f8:d13:f81:21c:14ff:fe01:12a3 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=thiago@macieira.org Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:8863 Archived-At: On segunda-feira, 27 de janeiro de 2014 15:45:25, Felipe Magno de Almeida wrote: > > You could call it a quality-of-implementation issue and allow the > > implementation to use extern templates for the known and common image > > formats. But I suggest that we *first* get the algorithms for what really > > matters settled down, then we figure out how or if they should be made > > generic. > Isn't it what Cairo has already done? What C++ needs is a generic > drawing library, not another wrapper over cairo. IMO. I'm arguing that we need an efficient C++ library more than we need a generic one. So I'm arguing to *first* get what matters, and then generalise. Just look at the bikeshed discussions in the SG7 mailing list over what type we should use for "pixel" and "point". -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center PGP/GPG: 0x6EF45358; fingerprint: E067 918B B660 DBD1 105C 966C 33F5 F005 6EF4 5358 -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. 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