220 7589 article Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Olaf van der Spek Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals Subject: Re: Fixing the private method issue Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 17:28:03 +0100 Lines: 26 Approved: news@gmane.org Message-ID: References: <1CD4DBEC-8081-42AD-861A-FF87D7E55606@gmail.com> <1389104.IyPuZUyp0R@tjmaciei-mobl2> Reply-To: std-proposals@isocpp.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1383582480 4832 80.91.229.3 (4 Nov 2013 16:28:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 16:28:00 +0000 (UTC) To: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-X-From: std-proposals+bncBC5NB45SSABBBFEW36JQKGQERUGIYSQ@isocpp.org Mon Nov 04 17:28:05 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mail-ee0-f72.google.com ([74.125.83.72]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VdN0X-00022Z-Dc for gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 17:28:05 +0100 Original-Received: by mail-ee0-f72.google.com with SMTP id b47sf2335104eek.7 for ; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 08:28:05 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=fjMk5pej0K5YEJI5xV3HYOQVm3SO6/91nYuYiXVR++o=; b=KjckhVLtd5iDP9Yo5LZsLnUlOwaqKKbwcoetxB/6C8U5nonf0VaSMlmcJU7VgZt6BR 3Hec9lGTrZ7SPOYXOchSk4K0lPldyOENtwcal/SADhHckqk7QXHW03ri2VqScqjv2TFT cJjdiz12KTsMudOFB/ovb7ee2GSl4zqpcQIgFVn5j1B1AOUqtIFIrXDBHYLWe3MrKLwG GbqB1V+tvOzmIb0Cf/w7aa2YOmbZj6yDNEXRjNvkUqQtcBxtlPjHjfA3AcpkIbEjIfB3 ABfaiaT3oy4EWq2VWYyXVlWQbBA1MVrgSbmMzkWi2IfIaLFSCXeBjc1RpMR9TtfsmPoO CZAg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlu3bKoXkeQP333IypVT7fIfC0QP8B26RaRvuY0iImhrJjpMx1nESPnOwN+K67P6cOw59in X-Received: by 10.14.210.3 with SMTP id t3mr6521684eeo.5.1383582485022; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 08:28:05 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-Received: by 10.180.103.169 with SMTP id fx9ls518172wib.43.gmail; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 08:28:04 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.204.163.203 with SMTP id b11mr10147388bky.21.1383582483894; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 08:28:03 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from mail-la0-x22a.google.com (mail-la0-x22a.google.com [2a00:1450:4010:c03::22a]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j5si2896458bko.223.2013.11.04.08.28.03 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 04 Nov 2013 08:28:03 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of olafvdspek@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::22a as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c03::22a; Original-Received: by mail-la0-f42.google.com with SMTP id ep20so932579lab.15 for ; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 08:28:03 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.112.134.3 with SMTP id pg3mr5566027lbb.11.1383582483317; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 08:28:03 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.152.5.229 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Nov 2013 08:28:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1389104.IyPuZUyp0R@tjmaciei-mobl2> X-Original-Sender: olafvdspek@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of olafvdspek@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::22a as permitted sender) smtp.mail=olafvdspek@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:7589 Archived-At: On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On segunda-feira, 4 de novembro de 2013 15:14:56, Olaf van der Spek wrote: >> One could use a factory function >> Or some (automatic) get_size() function could be generated > > Let's not go there, please. > > Instead, if this is a desired feature, let's just make it so the compiler > knows that it's a partial declaration. Until the declaration is full, the type > is incomplete and its size is not known. The idea is to move all private parts out of the header, avoiding rebuilds on changes to private parts. -- Olaf -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/group/std-proposals/. .