220 7340 article Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Billy O'Neal" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals Subject: Re: Suggestion: ostringstream::move_str() Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 22:49:05 -0700 Lines: 170 Approved: news@gmane.org Message-ID: References: <8d70b552-2ec1-45e7-9afb-dee28d73438a@isocpp.org> <4291267.ToRBPx4CWi@tjmaciei-mobl2> <1686493.M97JNQtMVy@tjmaciei-mobl2> Reply-To: std-proposals@isocpp.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c336768cdf5604e8e962a6 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1381988981 10491 80.91.229.3 (17 Oct 2013 05:49:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 05:49:41 +0000 (UTC) To: std-proposals Original-X-From: std-proposals+bncBDKLBLVE6ADBB6PU7WJAKGQEOVJNZGQ@isocpp.org Thu Oct 17 07:49:48 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mail-ie0-f198.google.com ([209.85.223.198]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VWgSx-0004o5-0O for gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 07:49:47 +0200 Original-Received: by mail-ie0-f198.google.com with SMTP id tp5sf4834702ieb.9 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 22:49:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=MQMTvR9xY6OhMmmA9cAcvzewxl493YZYfs9V7DpEDoI=; b=WNxQciyhDC8fuYP2rgp8aNWSiScPVbfWsXmbTjl0cVr9u4kLPr/y6ZweyssoiUZG80 zy9bkooDhSfP9r45gjqupC4icakiVPaJQ38JmmLHWHj7ceAqxQpJcAMTBVKb3is9Zq5N njBC5jUovAvU+HqlHj7cvqe4RihVCB19suVRXqF8MaRyb92y1z0STa4JgSOKDUFgQ/ks FNjgH/KxkiozzkxZYaW0DS7MiAI4TkXPNb1PMUHJRgNDTgxo5VqqhIMEaZW3viz9AyLL p5vySqWqqhPeGR2ZroOAUhPbQ3GF20/QEbrw5HG5WxGfVftrpLSKYntzQO+fjLI1DWr4 JdKA== X-Received: by 10.50.129.42 with SMTP id nt10mr2362332igb.0.1381988985891; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 22:49:45 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-Received: by 10.182.16.134 with SMTP id g6ls257787obd.98.gmail; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 22:49:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.182.84.132 with SMTP id z4mr9349049oby.49.1381988985431; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 22:49:45 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from mail-oa0-x235.google.com (mail-oa0-x235.google.com [2607:f8b0:4003:c02::235]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f9si28370985obv.127.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 16 Oct 2013 22:49:45 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of billy.oneal@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c02::235 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4003:c02::235; Original-Received: by mail-oa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id i7so1566150oag.26 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 22:49:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.182.230.135 with SMTP id sy7mr11001516obc.24.1381988985264; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 22:49:45 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.182.87.37 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 22:49:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: billy.oneal@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of billy.oneal@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c02::235 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=billy.oneal@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:7340 Archived-At: --001a11c336768cdf5604e8e962a6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Actually, scratch that. Just realized the change in vector::resize isn't detectable at all at the source level, while this change would be if someone tried to create a member function pointer to str(). Billy O'Neal https://github.com/BillyONeal/ http://stackoverflow.com/users/82320/billy-oneal Malware Response Instructor - BleepingComputer.com On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 10:32 PM, Billy O'Neal wrote: > It renders as bold on my box :) > > C++11 contained similar API/ABI breaks; e.g. > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17002690/why-has-the-stdvectorresize-signature-been-changed-in-c11 > > Billy O'Neal > https://github.com/BillyONeal/ > http://stackoverflow.com/users/82320/billy-oneal > Malware Response Instructor - BleepingComputer.com > > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > >> On quarta-feira, 16 de outubro de 2013 19:38:04, Billy O'Neal wrote: >> > Is an implementation permitted to add an overload like this? >> > >> > string*&&* str() *&&* >> > { >> > /* ... */ >> > } >> >> [I'm assuming that the * indicate bold, not pointers] >> >> In order to add str()&&, the existing method needs to become str() const >> & and >> that's an ABI/API break. >> >> -- >> Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org >> Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center >> PGP/GPG: 0x6EF45358; fingerprint: >> E067 918B B660 DBD1 105C 966C 33F5 F005 6EF4 5358 >> >> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. >> To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. >> Visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/group/std-proposals/. >> > > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. 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Actually, scratch that. Just realized the change in vector= ::resize isn't detectable at all at the source level, while this change= would be if someone tried to create a member function pointer to str().

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On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 10:32 PM, Billy = O'Neal <billy.oneal@gmail.com> wrote:
It renders as bold on my box :)


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On Wed, Oct= 16, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Thiago Macieira <thiago@macieira.org> wrote:
On quarta-feira, 16 de outubro de 2013 19:38:04, Billy O'Neal wrot= e:
> Is an implementation permitted to add an overload like this?
>
> string*&&* str() *&&*
> {
> =A0 =A0 =A0/* ... */
> }

[I'm assuming that the * indicate bold, not pointers]

In order to add str()&&, the existing method needs to become str() = const & and
that's an ABI/API break.

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