220 6237 <1378562952.3956.44.camel@patrick-laptop-debian.home> article Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Patrick Michael Niedzielski Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals Subject: Re: Specialization of std::stack for std::forward_list Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2013 14:09:12 +0000 Lines: 42 Approved: news@gmane.org Message-ID: <1378562952.3956.44.camel@patrick-laptop-debian.home> References: <419bda08-54a2-43e7-8dd7-ade5bf47cf88@isocpp.org> <39e36024-36a6-4123-b9c8-b8cfec1b16a0@isocpp.org> <1378557615.3956.11.camel@patrick-laptop-debian.home> <1378559780.3956.15.camel@patrick-laptop-debian.home> <1378562065.3956.41.camel@patrick-laptop-debian.home> Reply-To: std-proposals@isocpp.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-2X6d09uEo99czLW7sE/N" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1378563045 19166 80.91.229.3 (7 Sep 2013 14:10:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 14:10:45 +0000 (UTC) To: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-X-From: std-proposals+bncBC4IXLVISQMRBZPHVSIQKGQEQY4M4BY@isocpp.org Sat Sep 07 16:10:47 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mail-qe0-f72.google.com ([209.85.128.72]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VIJDr-0005rZ-3Z for gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 16:10:47 +0200 Original-Received: by mail-qe0-f72.google.com with SMTP id 6sf5421915qea.11 for ; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 07:10:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=message-id:subject:from:to:date:in-reply-to:references:content-type :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=/JA81FGFr5Vpi/aKKN0b+Ld4okQHsy3Uk8rv892pwkA=; b=S2oS0tvYCCGVDA5FO9ggQVLK1Oe9cAhoDD5PQf+1OYAU7FPfyjRqV/+x5KmifBxrdq TZMRlO9vSfkA9vRSd3dKNZ3YFAOhMSsGiNI582MzzltX/7reIILn1BQmvLDtaxuKMJRx hFV2mBr9m0aYdzvvN4fFiLNFvKonWlVtmxIkXFwoc8FopZ2q1ZxWCGDNX2fTahiuR0U6 VR0CsyUtUOsYvBm/naOLJ5PWuHg70fAR/ojl0WRuN4Pjp63RfDyCpyNaXIesB5aQRhIN NlM3C29Qpfv8xzhftpr6RAaZInOCU/gZxFfR9/rHNv+9uoQnmF0i/C6TkW0JW5fK+TN0 GKRg== X-Received: by 10.236.14.100 with SMTP id c64mr2762583yhc.38.1378563046242; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 07:10:46 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-Received: by 10.49.38.130 with SMTP id g2ls1193313qek.99.gmail; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 07:10:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.49.39.39 with SMTP id m7mr9383676qek.60.1378563045726; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 07:10:45 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from mail-qe0-x230.google.com (mail-qe0-x230.google.com [2607:f8b0:400d:c02::230]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f3si1580924qar.13.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 07 Sep 2013 07:10:45 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of patrickniedzielski@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c02::230 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c02::230; Original-Received: by mail-qe0-f48.google.com with SMTP id nd7so1344220qeb.21 for ; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 07:10:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.49.82.130 with SMTP id i2mr9513253qey.36.1378563045597; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 07:10:45 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [10.33.53.74] (nat-128-84-124-0-330.cit.cornell.edu. [128.84.125.74]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id c3sm5523889qag.5.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 07 Sep 2013 07:10:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Evolution 3.4.4-4+b1 X-Original-Sender: patrickniedzielski@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of patrickniedzielski@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c02::230 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=patrickniedzielski@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) d=gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:6237 Archived-At: --=-2X6d09uEo99czLW7sE/N Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On sab, 2013-09-07 at 07:07 -0700, Vlad from Moscow wrote: > Again you are mistaken. The client code knows nothing about protected=20 > members of your class. It relies only on the interface you provided. You= =20 > confuse the realization with the interface.=20 I'm sorry, I don't see how I haven't shown that the client code SneakyFoo that a user of my library would write knows nothing about Foo's protected member, especially since it uses the member. I don't wish to continue this discussion any further, as you don't seem to be addressing or trying to understand my points, and instead are just claiming that I'm wrong without giving any reasoning. 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