220 5557 <4cb59d09-7b46-4a7c-a85d-333d7882d21c@isocpp.org> article Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jonathan Wakely Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals Subject: Re: Re: A library to provide a virtual memory vector of strings Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 03:40:05 -0700 (PDT) Lines: 69 Approved: news@gmane.org Message-ID: <4cb59d09-7b46-4a7c-a85d-333d7882d21c@isocpp.org> References: <861959e9-74f3-4ed8-aeca-bad9c3256acd@isocpp.org> Reply-To: std-proposals@isocpp.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1705_31221492.1374748805964" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1374748810 22081 80.91.229.3 (25 Jul 2013 10:40:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 10:40:10 +0000 (UTC) To: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-X-From: std-proposals+bncBCMONUNYS4IRBBUBYSHQKGQE45XRTNA@isocpp.org Thu Jul 25 12:40:12 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mail-gh0-f197.google.com ([209.85.160.197]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V2Ixr-0004HC-Q8 for gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 12:40:08 +0200 Original-Received: by mail-gh0-f197.google.com with SMTP id r20sf626430ghr.8 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 03:40:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=stNnjvMdvBspCVmd+DkI0ZZB5lkF/6O1+swJtiZxrDM=; b=E1l68v6bDD1lPq+P5JNPXqsKoboDbyEWx3MdHZZcaNkfhct9P0ch8ZEennx62IEGz5 gx3XxOt2Sgil0hkTWUlKODa+zyrtPQGP9yGGyDIOBr9rnNw4xTpCBALgYe6lCTRE89// KDOYOvEbRTdCWLXgUasbEKb5wcG4vNh2t7y/Xq7j1uopzQxU21C9T6nnwMGGmzaAVdLj H6nDHQSKMgNEZNlnmf9kDup/giIRlS0ykWx9SBC2Gt0Ikm8FQkdgz2KorMpTu/LUHo/E RQ9zfQcNXGQDtyJPBHreBFXN/pwNIkZA18998xrVUP0NqSXx0kpWtKLVKp1wEmRErPz9 6OYQ== X-Received: by 10.224.64.202 with SMTP id f10mr39055278qai.2.1374748806782; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 03:40:06 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-Received: by 10.49.18.196 with SMTP id y4ls629945qed.38.gmail; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 03:40:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.49.94.101 with SMTP id db5mr654031qeb.31.1374748806379; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 03:40:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: cxx@kayari.org Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:5557 Archived-At: ------=_Part_1705_31221492.1374748805964 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 7:43:48 PM UTC+1, Fernando Cacciola wrote: > > > > Allow me to insist that we do have a problem in terms of what end users > get from the language. Wouldn't these reasons suggest that C++ actually > needs an official implementation, at least an official library > implementation? > > This seems off-topic for this particular thread, not to mention rather silly, who's going to maintain that implementation? Can you get IBM, Microsoft, Oracle, Intel, Apple, Red Hat, Novell, Debian, Mentor Graphics etc. to all agree to implement almost-100% conforming compilers that can compile your official library implementation correctly? -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/group/std-proposals/. ------=_Part_1705_31221492.1374748805964 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 7:43:48 PM UTC+1, Fernando Cacciola wro= te:


Allow me to insist that we do have a pro= blem in terms of what end users get from the language. Wouldn't these reaso= ns suggest that C++ actually needs an official implementation, at least an = official library implementation?


This seems off-topic for = this particular thread, not to mention rather silly, who's going to maintai= n that implementation?  Can you get IBM, Microsoft, Oracle, Intel, App= le, Red Hat, Novell, Debian, Mentor Graphics etc. to all agree to implement= almost-100% conforming compilers that can compile your official library im= plementation correctly?


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