220 4251 article Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ville Voutilainen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals Subject: Re: Fixing Standard Library relational operators (was: Re: optional Rev.4 (N3672): What was the rationale to remove !=, >=, ...) Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 22:57:59 +0300 Lines: 66 Approved: news@gmane.org Message-ID: References: <5f236e41-0f5f-4288-a80f-9eadb5168c38@isocpp.org> <21f24461-2f6a-42b4-93c9-76702aa8dedc@isocpp.org> <9d015df9-9711-4d69-ae40-7204bfb17880@isocpp.org> Reply-To: std-proposals@isocpp.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c24b7c9d378404dbd5c4cc X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1367611083 10594 80.91.229.3 (3 May 2013 19:58:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 19:58:03 +0000 (UTC) To: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-X-From: std-proposals+bncBC5JHI7A7ALRBSFNSCGAKGQEUWIAAUA@isocpp.org Fri May 03 21:58:03 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mail-ie0-f197.google.com ([209.85.223.197]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UYM7G-0003qu-Al for gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org; Fri, 03 May 2013 21:58:02 +0200 Original-Received: by mail-ie0-f197.google.com with SMTP id 16sf10103621iea.4 for ; Fri, 03 May 2013 12:58:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:mime-version :x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=97F/YNpOAp57z3z8TeiE1V1ETNF8g6rXqp3B4CR3Ek0=; b=0csINcY96h7BY68cKfu6zk6ZD1nnMtqWLlSEu3SY2K+wW8myPs9zY1xDFzJSAnJ0Ot SQNUKGG/5Wp2Y0z/R3+1lo0pFBQOxO+DttZrDesoDX9IqLW2dVIzPCejsj7PcwHc4LYn z5UyW4eEQmiezWuozBRF+/IzQGgttTTO+/V4rb8JECABsM+buBKIqLJQzdbdx8+aoWDI W7OZKVyyq4yNLOOH2st6easvko2SXpveGCKGLv6F7W2IYE8wXXJTWKUYwTdSD3gEdCvg S9vhO5vcRKW2v4GURuZDtHxnuUKmKkD+/vJPQtSLuE5nC/OgIZThW6d0h78opIf988TA X-Received: by 10.182.181.67 with SMTP id du3mr6951754obc.38.1367611081328; Fri, 03 May 2013 12:58:01 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-Received: by 10.182.38.170 with SMTP id h10ls307230obk.54.gmail; Fri, 03 May 2013 12:58:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.60.95.71 with SMTP id di7mr2527993oeb.42.1367611080178; Fri, 03 May 2013 12:58:00 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from mail-oa0-f52.google.com (mail-oa0-f52.google.com [209.85.219.52]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id iq5si3062477obb.163.2013.05.03.12.58.00 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 03 May 2013 12:58:00 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of ville.voutilainen@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.52 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.219.52; Original-Received: by mail-oa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id h2so556479oag.25 for ; Fri, 03 May 2013 12:58:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.60.45.133 with SMTP id n5mr3469440oem.0.1367611079995; Fri, 03 May 2013 12:57:59 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.76.10.130 with HTTP; Fri, 3 May 2013 12:57:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9d015df9-9711-4d69-ae40-7204bfb17880@isocpp.org> X-Original-Sender: ville.voutilainen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ville.voutilainen@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=ville.voutilainen@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:4251 Archived-At: --001a11c24b7c9d378404dbd5c4cc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 3 May 2013 22:35, DeadMG wrote: > Your argument is consistency with tuple. My argument is consistency > with T. So what's *your* point? > > > > The current optional has neither. And I've yet to hear an explanation why it shouldn't be consistent with tuple. Whether tuple as it currently is needs some fixes, I have proposed a dozen times already that those problems would be the next step. -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/group/std-proposals/?hl=en. --001a11c24b7c9d378404dbd5c4cc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable



On 3 May 2013 22:35, DeadMG <wolfeinstein@gmail.com> wrote:
Your argument is consistency with tuple<T= >. My argument is consistency with T. So what's your=A0point?




The current optional h= as neither. And I've yet to hear an explanation why it shouldn't be= consistent with
tuple. Whether tuple as it currently is need= s some fixes, I have proposed a dozen times already that
those problems would be the next step.

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