220 1514 article Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Beman Dawes Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals Subject: Re: Re: making using declaration more precise Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 10:39:21 -0500 Lines: 31 Approved: news@gmane.org Message-ID: References: <738f626c-3b23-4c74-9eea-2c2246921a81@isocpp.org> Reply-To: std-proposals@isocpp.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1357659561 23029 80.91.229.3 (8 Jan 2013 15:39:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 15:39:21 +0000 (UTC) To: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-X-From: std-proposals+bncBDRZZG5NIMIKV65QQ4CRUBD3ANLXM@isocpp.org Tue Jan 08 16:39:39 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mail-ea0-f200.google.com ([209.85.215.200]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TsbH8-00048U-JV for gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 16:39:38 +0100 Original-Received: by mail-ea0-f200.google.com with SMTP id j13sf518391eaa.7 for ; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 07:39:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=HekT+0Y5/Jgb+6Amey7qYca2Up3f18ZuZf3hvyHdcjQ=; b=YpBU7lLD9ZqB3aNo18wRA2CcHDNoQoiJZ7be5UmIMx3HeEP3ByfbRsw8h2h5rouH/K Nf/ACAyt7oxOv7Vp+Z9hXc2ZJVMWLYKAyGn+FY1tTowsFasTtSkm4OAFPUclxW2KBXDa BCWemFesARZh1LGpgYKvJeYet5VtP4eo47fSZz9dJtQrWT5T1KMLmO5xHk7jRoUDF+xq Z1Q1zu/Uot5m3qjozUcUZm33niNKaSEF3TWuIkF/SvZWbWy+tfBO5rkkutDtHwhBD9KK YGKLpxyE8nVrmfkvH7pZsBk0y5wb0v8JnfJigwysE1UgjfEDeF9K1 X-Received: by 10.152.103.145 with SMTP id fw17mr1595336lab.4.1357659562792; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 07:39:22 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-Received: by 10.152.115.7 with SMTP id jk7ls23355lab.82.gmail; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 07:39:22 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.152.123.77 with SMTP id ly13mr6839004lab.4.1357659562417; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 07:39:22 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.152.123.77 with SMTP id ly13mr6839003lab.4.1357659562406; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 07:39:22 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from mail-la0-f44.google.com (mail-la0-f44.google.com [209.85.215.44]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c3si83128893lbz.40.2013.01.08.07.39.22 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 08 Jan 2013 07:39:22 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of beman.dawes@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.44 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.44; Original-Received: by mail-la0-f44.google.com with SMTP id fr10so613777lab.31 for ; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 07:39:21 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.112.26.41 with SMTP id i9mr26405956lbg.77.1357659561691; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 07:39:21 -0800 (PST) Original-Sender: beman.dawes@gmail.com Original-Received: by 10.112.145.105 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 07:39:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: bemandawes@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of beman.dawes@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.44 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=beman.dawes@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:1514 Archived-At: On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 3:54 AM, Arthur Tchaikovsky wrote: >>Thinking like this is what makes me want the C++ committee to establish >> some >>kind of "small feature" group. > > I believe that this would work really great and C++ could only benefit from > it. The C++ committee is an all volunteer organization. That's true for both technical work and administrative work. The committee needs more volunteers for admin work like keeping a "small features" tracking list up-to-date. Ditto for a "library proposals" tracking list. You don't have to attend every meeting to volunteer. Several valued admin volunteers attend meetings when they can (i.e. only European meetings or North American meetings, where their travel costs are reasonable) and otherwise participate electronically via the committee's private mailing lists and wikis. The next committee meeting is Bristol, UK, April 15-20. The fall meeting will be in Chicago, IL, USA. Bottom line: If you want something to happen, volunteer to make it happen! --Beman -- .