From -2345246569714678553 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f78e5,ec3337d9f2b7ae74 X-Google-Attributes: gidf78e5,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1993-12-02 21:06:21 PST Newsgroups: comp.std.c++ Path: gmd.de!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uunet!psinntp!ses.com!castro!jamshid From: jamshid@castro.uucp (Jamshid Afshar) Subject: Is a member function a function? (was Re: Q: va_end in C++?) Message-ID: Summary: most definitely yes Sender: usenet@ses.com Nntp-Posting-Host: castro Organization: SES, Inc., Austin, TX, USA References: Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 20:08:13 GMT Lines: 37 In article , Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: >>The term "function" includes member functions. > >Jamshid, I do not share your view in this case. > >In general, it appears to me that both the ARM and current X3J16 working >paper are very explicit in specifying whether any given rule applies to >either "functions" or "member functions". I do not think that the latter >is considered a subset of the former. Rather, the ARM and the X3J16 WP >seem (in general) to treat these as two entirely disjoint sets. Can you provide examples where the ARM/WP treat functions and member functions as disjoint sets? I see a lot of wording like 7.1.2's "[inline and virtual] can be used only in function declarations" and "for a nonmember function an inline specifier also gives ...". If "member functions" were not "functions", the use of "nonmember" would be redundant. Also in 7.1.2: "A function defined within the declaration of a class is inline by default." 3.2 speaks only of "function" scope, not "function and member function scope". I don't see how you can interpret this as my "view". I don't know what else to say other than to repeat the quotes from my previous article: >>The term "function" includes member functions. 9.3: "A function >>declared as a member ... is called a member function." Furthermore, >>constructors and destructors are just special kinds of member >>functions. >>ARM 8.2.5 Functions: "The standard header contains a >>mechanism for accessing arguments passed using the ellipsis." 8.2.5's >>discussion of functions includes member functions. For example, "A >>cv-qualifier-list can be part of a declaration or definition of a >>nonstatic member function...". Jamshid Afshar jamshid@ses.com