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From: rjl@f111.iassf.easams.com.au (Rohan LENARD)
Newsgroups: comp.std.c++,comp.lang.c++
Subject: Re: How relevant is ANSI C++? (Re: Is STL a good standard?)
Date: 4 Oct 1994 07:25:57 +1000
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Hi there,
In article <36c5vn$9b8@serveur.cribx1.u-bordeaux.fr>,
Alain MINIUSSI <miniussi@labri.u-bordeaux.fr> wrote:
>In article <JASON.94Sep27152354@deneb.cygnus.com>, jason@cygnus.com (Jason Merrill) writes:
>|> >>>>> James Kanze US/ESC 60/3/164 #71425 <kanze@us-es.sel.de> writes:
>|> 
>|> Assuming, of course, that the compiler is written in C++.  g++, for one,
>|> isn't.  Are there any others?
>
>Of course g++ is not written in g++ (all the people I known who have tried
>to develop something "important" in g++ have:
>   - decided to return to C,
>   - decided to switch to ml, 
>   - comited suicide (well, not yet but he is really depressed...)
>   - are looking for another compiler)

Talk about flame bait.

Anyone developing a commercial project without commercial support for their
development environment is an idiot.  The firm I work for has been
successfully using g++ since november last year, but rather than wait for
the latest FSF release, we purchased support and we get bug fixes from guys
like Jason typically within three to five days.  Try getting support like
that from Sun, HP, et. al.

BTW. I'm glad your sample space of all consists of just one person :-)  It's
good to see the experience base used to make those ridiculous judgements.

>
>|> > Apparently the implementors don't agree with me.  I wonder if there is
>|> > any relationship between this and the particularly low quality of most
>|> > available compilers.
>|> 
>|> "this"?  etc..|> 
>|> I think that the low quality of most available compilers is due primarily
>|> to the complexity and fluidity of the language.
>
>It's due primarily to the fact that the people who produce these compilers
>should learn how to code. 

Oh get a grip Alain.  Writing compilers is not an easy task, especially when
the goal posts keep shifting.


Regards,
	Rohan

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