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From: jason@cygnus.com (Jason Merrill)
Subject: Re: How relevant is ANSI C++? (Re: Is STL a good standard?)
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>>>>> Alain MINIUSSI <miniussi@labri.u-bordeaux.fr> writes:

> Of course g++ is not written in g++ (all the people I known who have tried
> to develop something "important" in g++ have:
>    - decided to return to C,
>    - decided to switch to ml, 
>    - comited suicide (well, not yet but he is really depressed...)
>    - are looking for another compiler)

And I could give you plenty of examples of people who are developing
"important" code with g++, and paying my salary into the bargain.  At least
I think they consider the code to be important, since it's how they make
their own salaries.

> |> I think that the low quality of most available compilers is due primarily
> |> to the complexity and fluidity of the language.

> It's due primarily to the fact that the people who produce these compilers
> should learn how to code.

Hmm.  C++ compilers are buggy, perhaps more buggy than the industry norm
for software.  Ergo, programmers working on C++ compilers are less
proficient than the industry norm.  No, I don't think that works.

In any case, this discussion is not really relevant to comp.std.c++, so
I've directed followups to comp.lang.c++ alone.

Jason


