From 5307364541780685163
X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit
X-Google-Thread: 109fba,97482af7429a6a62
X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public
X-Google-Thread: 10bca1,37f5012c390e46a6
X-Google-Attributes: gid10bca1,public
X-Google-Thread: f78e5,d0101e78f246296b
X-Google-Attributes: gidf78e5,public
X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,371d317eff97da58
X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public
From: Kalyan Kolachala <kal@chromatic.com>
Subject: Re: C+@ Tails
Date: 1995/06/07
Message-ID: <3r36pn$np7@punchdown.zocalo.com>#1/1
X-Deja-AN: 104046199
references: <rshapiro-2405951316220001@esb.bbn.com> <MATT.95Jun4223325@godzilla.EECS.Berkeley.EDU> <3qu9il$342@News1.mcs.com> <D9ptu1.2nI@research.att.com>
content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
organization: Zocalo Engineering - Berkeley, California, USA
mime-version: 1.0
newsgroups: comp.object,comp.lang.c++,comp.std.c++,alt.culture.internet
x-mailer: Mozilla 1.1b3 (Windows; I; 32bit)

bs@research.att.com (Bjarne Stroustrup <9758-26353> 0112760)   
wrote: 
>Jim Fleming: 
 
> 
 
>	Various suggestions have been made about what to do in 
>	such cases in general, and with Mr. Fleming in   
particular. 
>	In most cases, ignoring flames works reasonably well;   
the 
>	flamers tire or pick new victims. Mr. Fleming, however, 
>	seems to have an infinite supply of time and venom.   
Once 
>	people have seen a few of his messages they tire of   
him, 
>	ignore him, or place him in their kill files. This 
>	unfortunately leaves the field open for him and a   
casual 
>	reader can take him seriously for a short while. 
> 
>	Thus, Mr. Fleming is far from harmless. He is a   
vicious, 
>	hateful, bully who must be opposed. 
> 
>	I must admit that I don't really know how to do deal   
with 
>	behavior as extreme as Mr. Fleming's, but one must   
devised 
>	or else Mr. Fleming has found the way to destroy the   
net as 
>	a forum for rational discussion of technical matters. 
> 
>	Ignoring him has been tried; it didn't work. 
> 
>	Maybe the right approach is the one recommended or   
chain 
>	letters and inappropriate junk mailings: return the   
message 
>	containing insults, slander, or innuendo to   
``postmaster'' 
>	at the originating site (in this case,   
postmaster@bytes.com). 
>	I'll try that for a while and see what happens. If   
enough 
>	others do the same maybe we will be allowed to get back   
to 
>	technical issues. 
> 
>		- Bjarne 
> 
 
I agree with the opinions expressed above. However I feel 
that Fleming's methods, though despicable, seem to work 
fairly well and in retrospect seem rational enough. 
 
