From -6010511177912146012 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,97482af7429a6a62 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: f78e5,d0101e78f246296b X-Google-Attributes: gidf78e5,public From: jim.fleming@bytes.com (Jim Fleming) Subject: Re: C+@ Tails Date: 1995/06/20 Message-ID: <3s56hn$f0c@News1.mcs.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 104739151 references: <3r1263$c9u@news.uni-c.dk> <3rihva$bfl@mercury.galstar.com> <1995Jun15.185339.10901@rcmcon.com> <3s1u30$r8h@News1.mcs.com> <3s25hd$8n9@highway.LeidenUniv.nl> organization: Unir Corporation mime-version: 1.0 newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.std.c++ In article <3s25hd$8n9@highway.LeidenUniv.nl>, ruiter@ruls41.LeidenUniv.nl says... > >Jim Fleming (jim.fleming@bytes.com) wrote: > >: FOR THE RECORD ONLY: > >: I will respond to this and other postings when appropriate. As many of you >: know, recently "someone" using the name Bjarne Stroustrup and posting from >: an account registered to research.att,com posted a message that has >: resulted in an enormous number of unsolicited e-mail messages to be sent >: to myself as well as others. Also, callers (most, unwilling to leave their >: names) have called our companies as well as a various other companies to >: respond to the request for support from the poster using the name Bjarne >: Stroustrup. Because of serious 800 number "jamming" and obscene calls and >: messages, Unir's 800 numbers have been disabled. These are *facts* that >: can be easily verified and which are being documented and reported to the >: proper authorities. > >I suggest you respond, point by point, to the posting by mr. Stroustrup, >or else shut up. > >Jan @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Have you been able to confirm that the original posting came from Mr. Bjarne Stroustrup of AT&T Bell Laboratories? As I have indicated in my previous posting, because of inaccuracies and inconsistencies in the posting with previous postings, I am concerned about the authenticity of the posting. I am trying to confirm the origin and authenticity via other channels. To give you an example of an inconsistency, earlier this year someone using the name Bjarne Stroustrup and posting from bs@research.att.com posted a note in which they claim to not know me. At the time, I thought that this was odd, but I assumed that it was intended to characterize me as some *nobody* that should be ignored. Now, the recent note claims that I confronted Bjarne Stroustrup last year at Object Expo with a business proposition and furthermore claims that my company's attorney(s) sent him a letter. How does that jive with the fact that earlier this year, the poster claims to not know who I am. As I have mentioned, I did NOT attend Object Expo last year and my companies' attorneys have never sent Bjarne Stroustrup a letter. I am not sure what purpose such inaccurate statements serve other than to "create an impression" that I or my company has tried to engage Bjarne Stroustrup in business opportunities and "the poster" is trying to give people the impression that he "resists" getting involved in such matters. The only audience that I can see that would be interested in that, might be, AT&T Bell Laboratories, who has rather strict policies regarding the external business dealings of their employees. Despite these strict policies, it is clear that AT&T Bell Laboratories does not seem to have much control over the Internet postings of their employees. It is hard for me to believe that AT&T Bell Laboratories would allow one of their high visibility employees to post a message asking people to SPAM accounts with chain letters, etc. As noted above, the results of that call for action have been significant, and the proper AT&T executives are being notified. -- Jim Fleming /|\ Unir Corporation Unir Technology, Inc. jrf@tiger.bytes.com / | \ One Naperville Plaza 184 Shuman Blvd. #100 %Techno Cat I / | \ Naperville, IL 60563 Naperville, IL 60563 East End, Tortola |____|___\ 1-708-505-5801 1-800-222-UNIR(8647) British Virgin Islands__|______ 1-708-305-3277 (FAX) 1-708-305-0600 \__/-------\__/ http:199.3.34.13 telnet: port 5555 Smooth Sailing on Cruising C+@amarans ftp: 199.3.34.12 <-----stargate----+ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\____to the end of the OuterNet_|