From -3048518150836010851 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f78e5,4aa07bccd99d934b X-Google-Attributes: gidf78e5,public From: James Kuyper Subject: Re: Suggestions for improving the *Obtuse* Standard Date: 1999/06/26 Message-ID: <37740559.F8B309E0@wizard.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 494159188 X-NNTP-Posting-Host: gscsgi02.gsfc.nasa.gov Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Approved: stephen.clamage@sun.com (comp.std.c++) References: <930235591.934.103@news.remarQ.com> X-Accept-Language: en, es, de, ru Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center -- Greenbelt, Maryland USA Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.std.c++ Originator: clamage@taumet Al Stevens wrote: ... > >The document should also include the relevent sections of the C standard; > > Well, as far as the core language goes, the document thoroughly defines the > language. It says what "int" and "for" mean, for example. Perhaps you can be > more specific and point to something that is missing. Being a C/C++ > programmer, I might not have noticed where a vital specification is lacking. > We tend not to miss that which we take for granted. There aren't many features of the language itself which are left to the C standard to define, but there are a few. I'm always surprised when I find one, but I haven't been keeping a list. However, virtually the entire portion of the C++ standard library that is derived from the C standard library has been left up to the C standard to specify. I find this inconvenient, particular since my copy of the C standard describes C9X, rather than C89, which is the version actually incorporated by reference into the C++ standard. > The document quite properly leaves the library specification to the C > document so that the two documents may enjoy their own ANSI-mandated cycles > of evolution and publication. To include the C spec in the C++ spec would > create an unadministrable effort that would almost guarantee that the C++ > spec would always be out of date and out of sync with the C spec. It will be out of sync in a year or so anyway. The C++ standard incorporates C89, and C9X is coming out "soon". [ comp.std.c++ is moderated. To submit articles, try just posting with ] [ your news-reader. If that fails, use mailto:std-c++@ncar.ucar.edu ] [ --- Please see the FAQ before posting. --- ] [ FAQ: http://reality.sgi.com/austern_mti/std-c++/faq.html ]