From 4197037129893237475 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f78e5,7522e5259f7267d6 X-Google-Attributes: gidf78e5,public From: James Kuyper Subject: Re: x = y = z; Undefined? Date: 2000/01/12 Message-ID: <387C7098.256766C8@wizard.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 571717255 X-NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.8.153.30 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Approved: stephen.clamage@sun.com (comp.std.c++) References: <3876254a.30903561@news.csrlink.net> <3879ca08.3142429@news.csrlink.net> <387b3c32.7816532@news.csrlink.net> <387B6338.FCE9D984@sensor.com> <387bb7c0.39451037@news.csrlink.net> X-Accept-Language: en,de,es,ru X-UID: 0000000001 X-Status: $$$T Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: tw11.nn.bcandid.com 947679253 209.8.153.30 (Wed, 12 Jan 2000 05:14:13 MST) Organization: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http://bCandid.com Mime-Version: 1.0 NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 05:14:13 MST Newsgroups: comp.std.c++ Originator: clamage@taumet John Potter wrote: .... > You completely missed the point. Read again. Any compiler which > decides to detect the presence of undefined code BETTER generate > a diagnostic about its detection and not generate malicious code > intended to do damage. True, but only as a QoI issue, not as a standard conformance issue. If the Devil put out a version of MSVC++6.66 that stole your soul any time you have it compile code that allows undefined behavior, that could still be a conforming implementation of C++. > The standard does not require the detection of undefined behavior > to allow generation of reasonable optimized code. It does not > grant the right to commit crimes against society when it detects > undefined behavior. True; neither does it prohibit committing such crimes; that's the job of the legal system, not the C++ standard. [ comp.std.c++ is moderated. To submit articles, try just posting with ] [ your news-reader. If that fails, use mailto:std-c++@ncar.ucar.edu ] [ --- Please see the FAQ before posting. --- ] [ FAQ: http://reality.sgi.com/austern_mti/std-c++/faq.html ]