From -4865838048627849065 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f78e5,40bc29384a77c552 X-Google-Attributes: gidf78e5,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-04-11 05:35:01 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!colt.net!kibo.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "James Kuyper Jr." Newsgroups: comp.std.c++ Subject: Re: Messages facet and wide character filename Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 12:34:38 GMT Organization: Giganews.Com - Premium News Outsourcing Approved: Fergus Henderson , moderator of comp.std.c++ Message-ID: <3CB4E429.4AE69FD4@wizard.net> References: <3cb19462$0$11204$4c41069e@reader1.ash.ops.us.uu.net> <3CB239B4.E41D0B98@acm.org> <_yts8.1524$CA6.117218@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <3CB2EF4B.DA3C3BBA@acm.org> <3CB36E29.8040709@yahoo.com> <5b15f8fd.0204100745.3580bfe0@posting.google.com> X-Trace: mail2news.demon.co.uk 1018528484 mail2news:24236 mail2news mail2news.demon.co.uk X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Mail2News-Path: news.demon.net!mulga.cs.mu.oz.au X-Authentication-Warning: mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU: fjh set sender to devnull@stump.algebra.com using -f X-Robomod: STUMP, ichudov@algebra.com (Igor Chudov) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 20:06:30 CDT X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly Lines: 26 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.std.c++:10517 Edward Diener wrote: .... > If the committee gets to the point where only working implementations will > be considered for proposed changes to C++, I think it is greatly losing out > on those who may have important suggestions and ideas to make, in the form > of proposals, but who are not compiler writers or library implementors. I If an idea is so unconvincing that you can't find a single implementor who would be willing to try it out as an extension, I doubt that it's a good enough idea to justify adding it to the standard. It's a lot easier to convince a single writer/implementor than the entire committee, so even if it was brought before the committee, such an unconvincing idea would probably be rejected anyway. Keep in mind the severe resource constraints that the committee works under; it barely has enough time to consider the ideas that have been proven out; it has no time to waste on ideas that haven't been proven out yet. Just think of the individual implementors as pre-screeners for the committee. --- [ comp.std.c++ is moderated. To submit articles, try just posting with ] [ your news-reader. If that fails, use mailto:std-c++@ncar.ucar.edu ] [ --- Please see the FAQ before posting. --- ] [ FAQ: http://www.jamesd.demon.co.uk/csc/faq.html ]