From -3817797496028044934 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f78e5,40bc29384a77c552 X-Google-Attributes: gidf78e5,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-04-09 15:33:01 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!kibo.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail From: Dietmar Kuehl Newsgroups: comp.std.c++ Subject: Re: Messages facet and wide character filename Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 22:32:41 GMT Organization: Phaidros Software AG Approved: Fergus Henderson , moderator of comp.std.c++ Message-ID: <3CB36E29.8040709@yahoo.com> References: <3caa1ba0$0$9888$4c41069e@reader1.ash.ops.us.uu.net> <3cb07ec7$1@news1.homechoice.co.uk> <3cb19462$0$11204$4c41069e@reader1.ash.ops.us.uu.net> <3CB239B4.E41D0B98@acm.org> <_yts8.1524$CA6.117218@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <3CB2EF4B.DA3C3BBA@acm.org> Reply-To: dietmar_kuehl@yahoo.com X-Trace: mail2news.demon.co.uk 1018391566 mail2news:1251 mail2news mail2news.demon.co.uk X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Mail2News-Path: news.demon.net!mulga.cs.mu.oz.au X-Authentication-Warning: mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU: fjh set sender to devnull@stump.algebra.com using -f X-Robomod: STUMP, ichudov@algebra.com (Igor Chudov) X-Orig-NNTP-Posting-Host: bf931.pppool.de (213.7.249.49) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orig-X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1018389857 33350289 213.7.249.49 (16 [86292]) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; de-DE; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011126 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: de-DE Lines: 41 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.std.c++:10492 Edward Diener wrote: > Certainly experience with using an idea is valuable, but ideas may have > merit of their own as an exploration point for further possibilities rather > than as a final point of actual changes and experience. If a proponent of a change is not interested enough to experiment with the proposed change, who do you assume would be interested enough? > Proposing an idea > which may not work smoothly in actual current experience can still serve as > a starting point for a change which will. If someone wants a change, he/she should determine what is the best way to change something. Proposing a change to the public like to this forum will spread the idea to a generally interested forum but even if there is heavy interest and ideas are given from a forum the proponent(s) has to do the actual work: Others have their own ideas and are also generally too busy. > I feel that some proposed changes > can be so simple that actual experience with the change is mostly > irrelevant. Experience shows that no change is so simple that it has no unexpected impact: Experience with any change is crucially necessary. For an even more practical point of view: The committee decided (at the Sophia- Antipolis meeting) to accept proposals only if they are implemented. -- Phaidros eaSE - Easy Software Engineering: --- [ comp.std.c++ is moderated. To submit articles, try just posting with ] [ your news-reader. If that fails, use mailto:std-c++@ncar.ucar.edu ] [ --- Please see the FAQ before posting. --- ] [ FAQ: http://www.jamesd.demon.co.uk/csc/faq.html ]