From 2733783575107410651 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f78e5,40bc29384a77c552 X-Google-Attributes: gidf78e5,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-04-11 17:33:01 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!colt.net!kibo.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "James Kuyper Jr." Newsgroups: comp.std.c++ Subject: Re: Messages facet and wide character filename Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 00:32:07 GMT Organization: Giganews.Com - Premium News Outsourcing Approved: Fergus Henderson , moderator of comp.std.c++ Message-ID: <3CB62981.87ED43A6@wizard.net> References: <3cb19462$0$11204$4c41069e@reader1.ash.ops.us.uu.net> <3CB239B4.E41D0B98@acm.org> <_yts8.1524$CA6.117218@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <3CB2EF4B.DA3C3BBA@acm.org> <3CB36E29.8040709@yahoo.com> <5b15f8fd.0204100745.3580bfe0@posting.google.com> <86u1qisapd.fsf@alex.gabi-soft.de> X-Trace: mail2news.demon.co.uk 1018571532 mail2news:2036 mail2news mail2news.demon.co.uk X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Mail2News-Path: news.demon.net!mulga.cs.mu.oz.au X-Authentication-Warning: mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU: fjh set sender to devnull@stump.algebra.com using -f X-Robomod: STUMP, ichudov@algebra.com (Igor Chudov) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 19:14:37 CDT X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly Lines: 30 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.std.c++:10528 Edward Diener wrote: > > "James Kanze" wrote in message > news:86u1qisapd.fsf@alex.gabi-soft.de... ..... > > The role of > > standardization is NOT a "creative process of changing or enhancing a > > computer language", it is first and foremost the standardization of > > existing practice. The creative part has no role, or at least, should > > have no role in standardization. > > Then at what point does the language get changed and/or improved ? If the > role of standardization is just the "standardization of existing practice", > then when does the other part occur ? Or is C++ so wonderful in every Creativity is the responsibility of implementors, not the standardizers. It's better that way; committees are not a good environment for creativity, but they are a key tool in the process of reaching consensus. Innovation works best in small groups. Look what Bjarne Stroustrup did - he had lots of support from other people, but during the early days of C++, everything about it was ultimately his responsibility; C++ would have been far less innovative if he'd had to work with a large committee to develop it. --- [ comp.std.c++ is moderated. To submit articles, try just posting with ] [ your news-reader. If that fails, use mailto:std-c++@ncar.ucar.edu ] [ --- Please see the FAQ before posting. --- ] [ FAQ: http://www.jamesd.demon.co.uk/csc/faq.html ]