From 6100472811408533167 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: f78e5,fe953dde0d9fda91 X-Google-Attributes: gidf78e5,public Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!newsrout1.ntli.net!news-in.ntli.net!kibo.news.demon.net!mutlu.news.demon.net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!devnull From: llewelly.at@xmission.dot.com (llewelly) Newsgroups: comp.std.c++ Subject: Re: Experimental compiler Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 16:06:39 +0000 (UTC) Organization: The Illusory Sorting Algorithm Lines: 38 Approved: fjh@cs.mu.oz.au (Fergus Henderson , moderator of comp.std.c++) Message-ID: <863c5bhhuh.fsf@Zorthluthik.local.bar> References: <86vfiuq081.fsf@Zorthluthik.local.bar> <60c4o1-1e2.ln1@interbusiness.it> <5b15f8fd.0405260814.1e7cd54@posting.google.com> <86ise9kwoz.fsf@Zorthluthik.local.bar> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: mail2news.demon.co.uk 1086365199 5156 10.0.0.1 (4 Jun 2004 16:06:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 16:06:39 +0000 (UTC) X-Received: from mulga.cs.mu.oz.au ([128.250.1.22]) by news.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1BWHDK-0001L1-00 for mail2news@news.news.demon.net; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 16:06:38 +0000 X-Received: from mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU with ESMTP id i54G6aJ8027490; Sat, 5 Jun 2004 02:06:36 +1000 (EST) X-Received: (from fjh@localhost) by mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.9/Submit) id i54G6adx027481; Sat, 5 Jun 2004 02:06:36 +1000 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU: fjh set sender to devnull@stump.algebra.com using -f X-Path: comp-std-cpp-robomod!not-for-mail X-Robomod: STUMP, ichudov@algebra.com (Igor Chudov) X-Delivered-To: std-c++@ucar.edu X-Newsgroups: comp.std.c++ X-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 08:02:33 +0000 (UTC) X-User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) Emacs/21.3.50 (berkeley-unix) X-Cancel-Lock: sha1:lfGRSOObSbnz8Cr3/DO99TJDIAY= X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: news@xmission.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 3.1 (built Wed Aug 20 09:38:54 PDT 2003) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-mulga_r1 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.7 required=5.2 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60-mulga_r1 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU id i54G6aJ8027490 Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.std.c++:632 loic.actarus.joly@wanadoo.fr (Lo=EFc Joly) writes: > llewelly wrote: > >> Until very recently, (and perhaps even now) the majority of potential >> developers knew C and not C++. Even now, most acutal GCC >> developers, from what I can see, know C substantially better than >> C++. > > I do not know if the expression translates well in English, but I > would say in French that this is the story of the hen and the egg. In English it is known as a 'chicken-and-egg problem'.=20 > Since GCC is written in C, people who know C++ and not C (I'm part of > them) do not participate in GCC, thus GCC is only designed by C > people, so it should be developped in C. > > ;) Exactly. :) . IIRC, EDG is also implemented in C. There are a good many sound reasons for choosing C as an implementation langauge for implementing C++. But those reasons grow weaker as the years go by. However - for an open source C++ implementation, it must be recognized that most of those truly interested in contributing will both more willing and more effective in C++ than C.=20 =20 --- [ comp.std.c++ is moderated. To submit articles, try just posting with ] [ your news-reader. If that fails, use mailto:std-c++@ncar.ucar.edu ] [ --- Please see the FAQ before posting. --- ] [ FAQ: http://www.jamesd.demon.co.uk/csc/faq.html ]