From 2174923791178513252 X-Google-Thread: f78e5,4176870a6d7b2d6 X-Google-Attributes: gidf78e5,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!news2.google.com!proxad.net!proxad.net!194.159.246.34.MISMATCH!peer-uk.news.demon.net!kibo.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!stump.algebra.com!devnull From: skaller@nospam.com.au ("John Max Skaller") Newsgroups: comp.std.c++ Subject: Re: Union fun Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 07:08:00 GMT Lines: 32 Sender: mail2news@demon.net Approved: fjh@cs.mu.oz.au (Fergus Henderson , moderator of comp.std.c++) Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: news.news.demon.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1098342495 13089 158.152.254.254 (21 Oct 2004 07:08:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 07:08:15 +0000 (UTC) X-Robomod: STUMP, ichudov@algebra.com (Igor Chudov) X-User-Agent: Pan/0.13.3 (That cat's something I can't explain) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cs.mu.OZ.AU X-Received: (from fjh@localhost) by mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.9/Submit) id i9L7802L019354; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 17:08:00 +1000 (EST) X-Path: comp-std-cpp-robomod!not-for-mail X-Delivered-To: std-c++@ucar.edu X-Authentication-Warning: mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU: fjh set sender to devnull@stump.algebra.com using -f X-Newsgroups: comp.std.c++ Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.std.c++:3131 On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 06:25:32 +0000, Jack Klein wrote: > On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 23:42:21 GMT, skaller@nospam.com.au ("John Max > Skaller") wrote in comp.std.c++: > You have neglected to provide your basis for concluding that g++ is > wrong. It is sometimes the case the Standard contains contradictory statements, and you have to actually know that one is intended as a special case .. and you have to actually know it exists as well, otherwise you can draw the wrong conclusion. At least part of the problem is the really bad English word 'is' which sometimes means 'has the property' and sometimes means 'exactly is'. Here, I wasn't able to find any appropriate wording, even though I was looking at a nearby paragraph at the time :) FYI my example was based on the belief that all class members must be initialised in order of writing, perhaps trivially... but that belief is wrong, it isn't what the Standard says at all. --- [ comp.std.c++ is moderated. To submit articles, try just posting with ] [ your news-reader. If that fails, use mailto:std-c++@ncar.ucar.edu ] [ --- Please see the FAQ before posting. --- ] [ FAQ: http://www.jamesd.demon.co.uk/csc/faq.html ]