From 2829228647197404216 X-Google-Thread: f78e5,480a31feed3c6a1b X-Google-Attributes: gidf78e5,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!news.glorb.com!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsfeed.stueberl.de!peer-uk.news.demon.net!kibo.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!stump.algebra.com!devnull From: dave@boost-consulting.com (David Abrahams) Newsgroups: comp.std.c++ Subject: Re: boost::shared_ptr revisited again Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 05:16:41 GMT Lines: 25 Sender: mail2news@demon.net Approved: fjh@cs.mu.oz.au (Fergus Henderson , moderator of comp.std.c++) Message-ID: References: <4299DE64.40403@poczta.onet.pl> <3g55jqFajuhcU1@news.dfncis.de> <77lpe.742$bv7.701@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: news.news.demon.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1118207805 6366 158.152.254.254 (8 Jun 2005 05:16:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 05:16:45 +0000 (UTC) X-Robomod: STUMP, ichudov@algebra.com (Igor Chudov) X-User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (windows-nt) X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.net X-Greylisting: NO DELAY (Relay+Sender autoqualified); processed by UCSD_GL-v1.2 on mailbox7.ucsd.edu; Tue, 07 June 2005 18:54:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.mu.OZ.AU X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Cancel-Lock: sha1:MTxkKUbpo1dQxS9+27k6NFdSvhs= X-Received: (from fjh@localhost) by mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.9/Submit) id j585GfvU019739; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:16:41 +1000 (EST) X-Path: comp-std-cpp-robomod!not-for-mail X-NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 20:54:00 -0500 X-Delivered-To: std-c++@ucar.edu X-TN-Interface: 209.99.127.20 X-Spamscanner: mailbox7.ucsd.edu (v1.6 Apr 6 2005 07:48:50, 0.0/5.0 3.0.0) X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 X-Authentication-Warning: serv1.gc.dca.giganews.com: news set sender to poster@giganews.com using -f X-Newsgroups: comp.std.c++ X-MailScanner: PASSED (v1.2.8 56203 j581s1Ct065996 mailbox7.ucsd.edu) Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.std.c++:5022 nagle@animats.com (John Nagle) writes: > I realize that this isn't going to happen, and that > C++ software will continue to crash until the language > is phased out. But it's useful to remind everyone that > unreliable and unsafe software is a direct consequence > of the decision to keep C++ an unsafe language. > This is not an unfixable problem. It is a problem that > the Committee has chosen not to fix. By the same token, we have "chosen" not to fix nuclear proliferation. Nobody has come to us with a proposal for fixing either problem. Coincidence? -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting www.boost-consulting.com --- [ comp.std.c++ is moderated. To submit articles, try just posting with ] [ your news-reader. If that fails, use mailto:std-c++@ncar.ucar.edu ] [ --- Please see the FAQ before posting. --- ] [ FAQ: http://www.jamesd.demon.co.uk/csc/faq.html ]