From -3195659205271079955 X-Google-Thread: f78e5,51456c3eb8f9490e X-Google-Attributes: gidf78e5,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news2.google.com!news3.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.speakeasy.net!news.speakeasy.net.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 11:40:10 -0500 Return-Path: X-Authentication-Warning: mulga.csse.unimelb.edu.au: fjh set sender to devnull@stump.algebra.com using -f X-Robomod: STUMP, ichudov@algebra.com (Igor Chudov) X-Original-To: std-c++@mailman.ucar.edu Delivered-To: std-c++@mailman.ucar.edu From: kuyper@wizard.net Newsgroups: comp.std.c++ Subject: Re: Copy Constructor Confusion! Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <1156523477.644185.312570@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1155645873.296811.3890@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <4kebv5Fbjid9U3@individual.net> <1155833275.678725.297060@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44e73f70$0$10146$9b4e6d93@newsspool2.arcor-online.net> <1156162332.681008.153540@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <4l60udFecegU1@individual.net> <1156512377.765813.77030@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com User-Agent: G2/0.2 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060410 Firefox/1.0.8,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com; posting-host=65.242.71.114; posting-account=bPBxkgwAAABzUwlEAMy-xGlLqZFJ5Jz_ X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ucar.edu X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at csse.unimelb.edu.au Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mulga.csse.unimelb.edu.au id k7PGVUEN026755 Approved: Fergus Henderson , moderator of comp.std.c++ X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at csse.unimelb.edu.au Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 11:38:32 CST Lines: 29 NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.182.171.162 X-Trace: sv3-RXygVhmmtxQeOe19BZJ5+LMPtjurMRpSlMr9di7oglZ1poznBocnw9bXcI2ZkLjATAdbVlcdFN7EiYs!zG4GQc03NV0ok/cf9poJaU3Cu2xsOm/U7BiWFSzAYLI4rclenoz+li2FnBGIjTZy1rk+nUFhYrqS!vi89TPzZbhFqbhB9eiQ4Jc/2NZa39M3SYRJ1r5sLgLs= X-Complaints-To: abuse@speakeasy.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@speakeasy.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.std.c++:3523 Frederick Gotham wrote: > kanze posted: > > > According to �8.5.1/7: "If there are fewer initializers in the > > list than there are members in the aggregate, then each member > > not explicitly initialized shall be default-initialized." So > > T arr[1] = {} ; > > is the equivalent of: > > T arr[1] = { T() } ; > > which is the equivalent of: > > T arr = T() ; > > > I don't think you're corrected there. Just because something is default- > initialised, doesn't mean there's a copy-construction involved. That's correct, but it misses the point. Re-read his post. It isn't the default-initialization that determines this, it's the use of brace-enclosed initializer list - per 8.5/12, his citation of which you've cut out of your reply. You need an argument to justify ignoring 8.5/12. I haven't seen one. --- [ comp.std.c++ is moderated. To submit articles, try just posting with ] [ your news-reader. If that fails, use mailto:std-c++@ncar.ucar.edu ] [ --- Please see the FAQ before posting. --- ] [ FAQ: http://www.comeaucomputing.com/csc/faq.html ]