From 1425943517955694153 X-Google-Thread: f78e5,f292bdd67daeb7bb X-Google-Attributes: gidf78e5,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news3.google.com!news.glorb.com!news.alt.net!comp-std-cpp-robomod!not-for-mail From: kuyper@wizard.net Newsgroups: comp.std.c++ Subject: Re: C++ Embraces Procedural Programming Over OO Programming [OT] Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:41:25 CST Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 36 Approved: Fergus Henderson , moderator of comp.std.c++ Message-ID: <1164841799.669744.22800@14g2000cws.googlegroups.com> References: <1164724788.102215.311700@h54g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1164799891.346141.92780@16g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <4t6cfjF12g0a2U1@mid.individual.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1164841805 19497 127.0.0.1 (29 Nov 2006 23:10:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 23:10:05 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: X-Authentication-Warning: mulga.csse.unimelb.edu.au: fjh set sender to devnull@stump.algebra.com using -f X-Robomod: STUMP, ichudov@algebra.com (Igor Chudov) X-Original-To: std-c++@mailman.ucar.edu Delivered-To: std-c++@mailman.ucar.edu User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1) Gecko/20061010 Firefox/2.0,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: 14g2000cws.googlegroups.com; posting-host=65.242.71.114; posting-account=bPBxkgwAAABzUwlEAMy-xGlLqZFJ5Jz_ X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ucar.edu X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at csse.unimelb.edu.au X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at csse.unimelb.edu.au Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.std.c++:4839 "Bo Persson" wrote: > kwikius wrote: > > > > Various times I have heard it is hard to write the spec for such a > > virtual platform, but nevertheless they exist for e.g Java and . > > Net. Sure its hard, but it makes life much simpler for the user and > > library developer. > > > > But it sometimes makes it incredibly hard and expensive for those that > happen not to exactly fit the spec. > > I work on big iron machines like this > > http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/hardware/ > > where it is necessary to add this kind of hardware extension to run Java > properly > > http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/zaap/ > > > I don't see that some advantage for a library developer is really worth the > $$$ invested here. I also hope that C++ never ever ends up there! I'm curious - what features of the Java Virtual Machine make it difficult to emulate efficiently on that platform, without that hardware extension? A quick look around those web sites didn't answer that question for me. --- [ comp.std.c++ is moderated. To submit articles, try just posting with ] [ your news-reader. If that fails, use mailto:std-c++@ncar.ucar.edu ] [ --- Please see the FAQ before posting. --- ] [ FAQ: http://www.comeaucomputing.com/csc/faq.html ]